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Post by GreatMuppetyNick on Aug 12, 2005 3:33:26 GMT -5
I figured it's time to start pimpin' this show on this site too.
So, why should you care? Why should you watch it?
Can there be a better reason than Joss Whedon loves the show.
Now, Joss and I have something more in common.
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Post by tjaman on Aug 12, 2005 10:06:58 GMT -5
I'm hoping to catch it for the first time tonight.
If I like it, I'll probably get the deeveedeedleleedees as well
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Post by Dr. Purple Goddess on Aug 12, 2005 10:09:21 GMT -5
I'm hoping to catch it for the first time tonight.
If I like it, I'll probably get the deeveedeedleleedees as well
Well aren't you just being cute as a button this morning?
I don't get the UPN now, so my chance has past to see it. But I've heard it's good....plus lots of 'verse guest starrage.
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Post by tjaman on Aug 12, 2005 10:21:02 GMT -5
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Post by AlyWay on Aug 16, 2005 14:52:24 GMT -5
the times I have seen I have enjoyed it. I never remember when its on.
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Post by quantumcat on Aug 21, 2005 4:07:26 GMT -5
I saw Veronica Mars tonight while babysitting.
I can see why Joss would like it.
It had a rather retro feel in that it hearkened back to shows/books with intrepid young heroes and all those stories with the crusading reporter ready to do anything and everything for the sake of the truth (and a nifty scoop).
The glimpse I had indicated that Veronica Mars had taken every standard teen drama (from soap to action/adventure), seasoned it with contemporary characters and execution and presented a final product that was tight,realistic,quirky,densely layered and classic without being cliched.
It was so much more than it had to be.
It could have fit quite comfortably between "Kim Possible" and "Lizzie McGuire" if it had aspired to nothing beyond a well written "Nancy Drew Saved by the Bell on the Front Page of DeGrassi High."
Veronica was a teen I could believe and a woman I could respect.
Now,if that farm boy in Kansas had met a girl reporter like Veronica,winding up at the Daily Planet would have been the most natural thing in the world.
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Post by Aunt Arlene on Aug 24, 2005 21:14:18 GMT -5
Not wanting to be one of those close minded people who dismisses a show out of hand, I gave Veronica Mars another shot.
I still don't get it.
I get the same feeling from the show as I do from reading typical Buffy or Angel fan fiction. The familiar pieces are all there and you think it should work, but the writing feels flat.
It's also a little too teen centric for me. While Buffy was set in a high school, I never felt the show was about teenagers. Veronica Mars seems aimed at a slightly younger group that might also watch The O.C. It knocks the show just out of my scope.
I tried really hard not to compare it to Buffy, but Joss really inflated my standards. When Xander was being bullied, Buffy slammed Larry up against the soda machine. Veronica would shake his hand and deliver the somewhat cheesy line, "Congratulations, you've just won the cockroach of the year award."
I'll take Larry and the diet pop any day. Xander's sissy man rep be damned.
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Post by GreatMuppetyNick on Aug 24, 2005 21:50:20 GMT -5
Fair enough, I guess.
I can't expect everyone to like it (at least, that's what my psychiatrist tells me) , but gosh darn it, I really want the show to make it. Hey, at least you gave it a try.
In my last defence of the show, the show really works better when you see it in sequence, rather than an episode at random.
I tried really hard not to compare it to Buffy, but Joss really inflated my standards. When Xander was being bullied, Buffy slammed Larry up against the soda machine. Veronica would shake his hand and deliver the somewhat cheesy line, "Congratulations, you've just won the cockroach of the year award."
I'll take Larry and the diet pop any day. Xander's sissy man rep be damned.
That was kinda a weird sequence there itself. In the past, she's tasered some biker gang, harrased a drug dealer with her dog, made a fool of the sheriff and much more.
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Post by quantumcat on Aug 24, 2005 22:25:50 GMT -5
Buffy was a super human trying to pass as 'normal'.
I think Veronica is supposed to be the regular girl who just happens to be superior to your average bear.
I think I'd get a bit bored if she got too slick or too 'teenish' or too much the smug,gorgeous protagonist that wins by accident.
The episode I saw seemed to just miss all those pitfalls.
It suggested that the supporting players (including adults) could be bright,authority figures could be correct and she could solve her problems just by being a nice,intrepid, resourceful human being.
If she listens to the Aunties as well as her fans,she can avoid the pitfalls and give us a real journalist,a natural born sleuth and a _normal_ heroine-in-the-making instead of a parody of grrrl power straight out of a pre-teen glamour mag.
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Post by Aunt Arlene on Aug 24, 2005 22:48:50 GMT -5
I will admit that it took several episodes of Buffy to get me hooked. It kept drawing me back though.
I find myself watching Veronica Mars through gritted teeth. I know a lot of cool people like it and I want to like it too. It just isn't working for me.
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Post by quantumcat on Aug 25, 2005 7:37:14 GMT -5
You're probably seeing some very real flaws they need to correct.
Just as some people notice discords,odors,color clashes,etc. others miss,some people notice when a story or performance doesn't quite work as it should.
It might be a glaring error or something more subliminal that gets more grating or tedious with time.
If someone says the milk is 'off',it's a pretty good idea to chuck it rather than assume that person is lactose intolerant.
If one person can detect something in a series that makes it unwatchable,maybe that should be heeded before the program becomes so unpalatable any one would be sickened by it.
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Post by tjaman on Aug 25, 2005 10:52:35 GMT -5
I will admit that it took several episodes of Buffy to get me hooked. It kept drawing me back though.
I find myself watching Veronica Mars through gritted teeth. I know a lot of cool people like it and I want to like it too. It just isn't working for me.
She hasn't yet fallen under Veronica's thrall?
She must be hunted through the sewers and destroyed! Destroy the blight on the Body Veronica!
* and now I can't stop thinking of the "Body Harmonica" or Adam Sandler's "Hanukkah Song" *
* and -- not for the first time because of this place -- will be unable to stop smiling for the rest of the day *
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Post by Daelus on Nov 12, 2005 12:36:26 GMT -5
I'm in love with this show. It's got everything a Joss show has. Which may be why Joss himself loves it so much.. And here's the twist, I actually like the main character. No, I love her. I like how there's more to her than just preaching about doing the right thing. Because, well, she does like her revenge. It's right up there with Buffy, in my opinion. Or, possibly, a little higher. ("BLASPHEMY!" you scream. And yes, I agree with you on that. I should be punished)
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Post by TheMasterGeek on Nov 14, 2005 11:55:22 GMT -5
I finally finished watching season 1 on DVD last night, and I got to say it meet my expectations.
I care about all the characters, and I'm generally worried when they get in touble. Although Veronica may not kick anyone's buttom in a fight, but how she beats them is by outsmarting and embarassing them. She believes in an eye-for-an-eye, if yoy release a video of someone in a compromising position, she will do the same to you. She has a heart, who will fight for the disadvantaged, usually with payment, and she is very tenacious.
She usually wins because of all the intelligence and contacts she has.
She's got Wallace, who can get school info and will do anything for her. She has her dad's lawyer friend, who helps her get anything, and she's got Weevil who is her muscle.
As for last year's mystery.
Although I was spoiled by last week's episode of who killed Lily, I was still surprised that Aarondid it, but you still saw signs of it. Like his abuse of Logan, beating up Trina's abusive boyfriend, and his treatment of Lynn, and all of his affairs. All the signs were there. Veronica was right in saying he is psychotic. Now I wonder if Lynn Echolls killed herself, or did Aaron follow her, and throw her off that bridge. I would not put it past him.
For this year's mystery
So, how do you think blew up the bus?
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Post by GreatMuppetyNick on Nov 14, 2005 20:12:05 GMT -5
I'm glad you liked it Kev. One more VFan (who really need a good name, like say The Tiny Blonde One Brigade) to the fodder
As for who blew the bus up, It was Curly Moran, Aaron's stunt director. Or hadn't you seen that far yet?
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