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Post by TheMasterGeek on Oct 22, 2005 23:15:11 GMT -5
except for Cordy's and Cindy's Our temp's about 43 at night and 53 daytime. A friend got blistered from wind and cold in Virginia at a civil war re enactment this week.
Oh...tell me about it. I was covering a Football game this afternoon, and I had two coats on and I was still freezing. I didn't help it was pouring down rain all game. Luckily I was in the media tower, but it offered little protection out in the wind. And when I had to interview the coach and a player from the winning team, I got soaked from the rain. I'm just grateful that I was allowed to be in the tower, because it would have sucked if I had to write my notes out in the rain. I would have no notes. At one point in the third quarter, people started to come into the tower, and I thought we were about to pull of a college trick of how many people can we fit in the tower, without breaking it.
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Post by quantumcat on Oct 22, 2005 23:16:19 GMT -5
A discreet,sane public outlet might be o.k. but no sensation-seeking glory hounds.
A tabloid t.v. attitude would just wreck matters..
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Post by quantumcat on Oct 22, 2005 23:18:07 GMT -5
anything to get warm!!!
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Post by TheMasterGeek on Oct 22, 2005 23:20:29 GMT -5
A discreet,sane public outlet might be o.k. but no sensation-seeking glory hounds. A tabloid t.v. attitude would just wreck matters..
Yeah...Saint Louis Post-Dispatch....good. At Large with Geraldo Rivera...bad. Any major news station in St. Louis...good. A Current Affair...bad.
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Post by quantumcat on Oct 22, 2005 23:25:37 GMT -5
St.Louis-or npr.....
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Post by TheMasterGeek on Oct 22, 2005 23:30:49 GMT -5
Yeah.
Before you decide anything about going to the media, you should seriously talk to your lawyer about it. He or she will know if it is the right thing to do because that person in experienced in those matters. Because going to the media could backfire on you and your son. It may help other kids down the road, but it could make him a martyr, which I don't want Enzo to be.
This who situation just blows a whole lot.
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Post by tjaman on Oct 23, 2005 16:22:54 GMT -5
You may need to send me your present back -- that last post exhibited some extraordinarily cogent and sage advice, Kev.
Cordy, I'm having a really hard time believing the example that is being made of Enzo. This principal wants to do the right thing and is so paranoid that inattention and wrist-slapping may have contributed to The Trenchcoat Mafia that s/he's gone way overboard in the other direction. I'm guessing the school is the only plaintiff capable of taking this to felony changes, but it may be an overzealous D.A., who probably doesn't have enough to do.
It sucks, and in a markedly unpleasant way.
Know that you are all in my prayers, of course, along with a wish for wisdom as guidance.
I have to help an actor with his lines right now, so I can't gush about having MET JULIE BENZ and ask her a whole bunch of questions in a one-hour "everyone ask Julie Benz a question" format.
ValleyCon was in Fargo this weekend and I had a great time. It was a little lame (about a third the size of past cons), but hey ... Julie Benz. ::drool::
I'll log back on in a while. See you all later! ;D
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Post by Insane Troll Logic on Oct 23, 2005 16:25:37 GMT -5
Julie Benz?
You lucky bastage! lol
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Post by tjaman on Oct 23, 2005 20:02:52 GMT -5
Julie Benz was in the state and I wasn't going to go see her?
My sister paid my entry fee for the Con, which was cool. Along with the autograph -- autographs cost $20, but since I'm certain I increased the resale value of my S2 DVDs by an order of magnitude, it's certainly worth something for her to sign them -- I picked up a print a comic book artist did of Wash's image from his ... from that scene, and a "Serenity"-themed button.
Julie was incredibly cool. She'd just gotten a puppy, who is abusing her terribly ("He bites my clothes, he bites my hair -- I'm basically a chew toy," she said, but indulgently) and she appears in the direct-to-video release of "8MM-2," which is such a post-production rename that Nicholas Cage isn't involved in it in any way, and she's completed a pilot for Showtime, so she'll find out if she's got a job in January.
She really enjoyed her time on "Angel," but when asked if there were practical jokes on the set (which many of us geeks know because they're in the gag reel and the Casefiles), she said she couldn't remember any, but that they all had a good time. She said that she and David were basically klutzes, so as often as not, when they were in bed together they'd just fallen there. And fallen off the bed, and bumped into each other when they were supposed to be threatening, etc. etc.
One scene she recalls as a favorite is the one in the abandoned reservoir, where Darla takes a cross and burns Angel, and says "G-d doesn't want you, but I still do," and then runs into the sunlight. Which never made much sense to me. Structurally it works, but storylinewise , there's no really good reason for Darla to run away from him just then (if I'm remembering correctly, which I may not be).
She was a figure skater from the age of 3 to when she was 16, when she'd been sidelined by an injury, and her mom didn't want her hanging around the house the whole time so she went to audition for a role as an extra in something and got cast, and started her acting career (if I'm not misremembering the session -- I wasn't taking notes so we're relying on my memory for all of this). And she took acting classes and she met her future husband and she was so amazed by him -- and was so unsure of her talents that she was afraid to cut loose on stage and so he didn't notice her until she threw a party for her class and invited him and told him how amazing she thought he was. Ever since, she said, he's pretty much been her acting coach. She runs a lot of her choices for scenework by him, and calls him if she's given a direction she can't figure out -- like, "What exactly is he asking for here? Is this some technical thing I've never heard of?" etc.
Also, she'll take roles without being entirely clear what's going to be asked of her, based entirely if she feels like she can get into the character at all (so she's at least somewhat method). In the audition process, she tries to convince herself that she's right for the role, and of course she's had a few cringeworthy things happen in her career, but she loved the stuff she did on "Angel." And she loved "Buffy" too, although one of the first things she found out was that they didn't really know what they were doing. These were early days (although she said the scripts often arrived the day of shooting well into the series') and she was called into makeup one day at 4 a.m. for a prostethis that didn't shoot until 4 p.m. that afternoon, so she spent like 18 hours covered in toxic goo ("They wear huge latex gloves to apply this stuff to our skin" -- she argued it was how they kept the actor population down) before they let her go.
Some of the natterboards were so personally mean to her (not just Darla -- which she totally gets -- "She's a blood-sucking monster," she said. "Of course they should hate her. If someone came up to me and said 'I want to be just like Darla,' I'd be very frightened. Nobody ever did.") so she stopped trolling the boards around S2. She said she'd just started second-guessing the choices she was making too much, and so she held off.
I'd basically asked that to see if she ever took a peek at TV.com or Whedonesque, because we know that some of them do. She says she doesn't -- but I suspect she might. And just in case she wouldn't see it there, I closed by saying, "Julie Benz totally owns."
And I asked what I thought was a fairly sneaky question. After someone else asked what it was like to work with Joss (like nearly everyone else in the world has said: "Amazing" -- and she said he was in complete control of Darla -- she said she didn't bring anything to the part except her looks [which were plenty for me, btw]) I said, "You were so amazing in Season 2. You had to display a huge range. So much happened to you -- being brought back to life ..." Ms. Benz: "...dying of syphillis ..." Me: "Getting sired by Drucilla and so forth, you really got to explore that character. How did Joss direct you to act in that scene in Season 4 where you confronted Connor?"
Her answer was of very great interest to me. First she said Joss told her basically "Julie, go act." But then she said she was trying to figure out how to do the scene -- "Julie, go deliver a monologue" -- and she was trying to get into the head of a mother whose son had disappointed her, but to project her love for him. "I don't know what I was -- a ghost, or if I was just in his head or what," but she just tried to find the voice of a mother whose son had done some terrible things by this time and who'd disappointed her, but she still loved him.
She also said she loved "The Girl in Question," that she really loved working with Juliet again, and that she enjoyed the storyline of "The Immortal," although she'd forgotten his name (she called him "The One" several times).
She said she was really so upset about how her role on "Buffy" was so misrepresented. She said people saying things like she and Sarah Michelle Gellar were both up for the role -- "There were 50 girls, and I would've been so wrong for Buffy -- I'm more of the dark side," she smiled -- and the same with the roles on the soap. They were never in direct competition, she said, and they really enjoyed working with each other.
Mostly, I thought she was incredibly poised. She didn't prepare any opening remarks, but she had one hell of a closing. She thanked everyone who'd been involved in the "Save Angel" campaign -- people who contributed, people who raised money -- "Heck, people who complained about it online," she said. "All of us loved working on the show so much, and your energy was a huge part of that."
She closed to applause.
Kevin Sorbo did very well, afterwards. "Andromeda" had this massive and funny multimedia thin.gie ahead of him and was funny and engaging, but to be perfectly honest, the con was more or less done for me.
When I get the photos developed, you'll see some of the costumes I was awash in a sea of ("I'm awash in a sea of geeks!" ) My sister won for best workmanship for her naughty Queen of Hearts costume. I saw some friends I haven't seen for awhile, and had some fun, but mostly I had this splitting headache from driving down from Minot to Fargo (300 miles) from 5:30 to about 10:30 a.m. I drove back this a.m. and got here in time to paint my set and help that actor I helped earlier.
All in all, however, it was ... a most excellent weekend.
Time for my 'Wives. See you kids later. ;D
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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 23, 2005 20:44:51 GMT -5
Cordy I am so sorry that this is happening to you. I wish I could give you some legal advice on this one but I don't even see a case here. Plus I'm not sure what your local laws are.
But I do know that these idiots could be ruining people's futures forever, it's ridiculous.
It really is rediculous. I did get a piece of good news today. My Dad called and said he's getting Enzo a lawyer, and he's talking to the ACLU.
He's pretty pissed about the whole thing, and that's great for us but bad for the school. He'll make sure things get fixed.
My ex-Mother-In-Law talked to someone about this, not sure who, but they said most of the local lawyers in town would be too afraid to go against the school in this. Small towns can be great, but they do have their drawbacks.
I'm not sure how accurate her information is though. She can come up with the weirdest ideas but then considering how far this has gone already considering what actually happened, nothing would surprise me.
I went to visit Enzo today. They only gave us 25 minutes instead of the half hour we were supposed to get.
But making a fuss about it would just make things worse for him.
He's nearly done with the 5th Harry Potter book right now. He asked if the next book gets any less dark. I feel bad that he doesn't know what's coming.
He does get to go to free time today which means he'll finally get to interact with the other kids. He said he was surprised to move through the levels so quickly, but then since he's just been reading I guess he hasn't been bothering them.
He's not sure if the other kid will get to go to free time too and he's afraid he'll be upset if Enzo goes and he doesn't get to. I told him that since the levels are behavior based he should be upset with him. Plus, I can't see why he wouldn't be able to get free time as well. The other kid has always been a good kid. He's pretty goody-goody.
I asked it he'd get to wear something different to court of if he'd have to wear what he's wearing now. The lady said he'd be in what he's wearing now and he'd be in shackles.
I really hope they let him come home tomorrow.
And tj got to meet Julie Benz! How cool is that? ;D
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Post by GreatMuppetyNick on Oct 23, 2005 20:46:30 GMT -5
Hey guys, Cordy.
Any news on the Enzo front?
EDIT: Never mind. Looks like I posted the same time as Cordy did.
One of the worst thing of being a non-believer is that you can't really pray for your friends. Let us know if there's anything that we can do.
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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 23, 2005 20:54:39 GMT -5
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Post by GreatMuppetyNick on Oct 23, 2005 21:28:02 GMT -5
Poor Enzo.
When's the date of the trial going to be? Does he have to stay there till then?
I know this is going to sound naive, but I'm sure no jury would convict him on those charges.
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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 23, 2005 21:38:35 GMT -5
Poor Enzo.
When's the date of the trial going to be? Does he have to stay there till then?
I know this is going to sound naive, but I'm sure no jury would convict him on those charges.
I'm not sure when his trial is. I just know it's sometime in November. They haven't set the date yet.
He does have a detention hearing tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. to determine if they keep him at JDC until the trial or if they'll let him come home.
If he comes home they'll probably put him back under house arrest. They can make him go the ankle bracelet route which means it will cost me $120 a month for him to wear that and he won't even be able to go outside.
Or they can go back with the original house arrest agreement where he had to call JDC before he could go anywhere and he was limited as to where he was allowed to go. He could only go out for emergency's. They were going to allow him to go to his Grandparents house on Saturday/Sunday as he usually does though since I have to work 3 to Midnight on Saturday's now.
I'm not sure the court will be as lenient as his JDC Officer was though. And those rules really sucked.
But anything is better than him having to stay at JDC until the trial.
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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 23, 2005 21:49:42 GMT -5
Hey guys, Cordy.
Any news on the Enzo front?
EDIT: Never mind. Looks like I posted the same time as Cordy did.
One of the worst thing of being a non-believer is that you can't really pray for your friends. Let us know if there's anything that we can do.
Yeah, but just being there for them is always helpful. It really helps me out to know everyone is behind us.
It's also really helping out Enzo to know so many people are behind him. His mood has improved since he knows so many people are pulling for him and his friend right now.
I'm really proud of him for worrying so much about his friends right now. He really wants to protect them throughout this, especially since they've taken things so far. He doesn't want to see any of this happen to his other friends.
It's so good to see that he has honor, even if it can make things worse for himself. ;D
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