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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 3, 2005 0:06:38 GMT -5
So I guess you guys didn't have any trouble getting tickets then?
I've seen the movie three times and I still have seen the music at the end. I didn't realize it was there during the first two showings. When I went again last night everyone left the theater and I didn't feel like sitting there all by myself just for that.
I'll be going to see it again next weekend with Celeste so I'll make her stay so we can see that.
So, tj was talking during the movie?
Just once did he talk..and I didn't even hear him.
Actually one of my favorite parts of the movie was the beginning and Simon's rescue of River...that was pure genius. Another thing that I liked was the that Mal made River pilot, I thought that it was appropriate. I think it was tj or Marc that said that Zoe would resent the person who would replace Wash as pilot except River. And I agree with whoever said that
I really enjoyed the establishing shot on Serenity, and how they kept that one shot going throughout the entire ship so we got to see it all. It was great, I could almost hear Joss commenting on the shot in my head. I know how he likes to keep a shot going for as long as possible.
I also love how he reintroduces the characters without making it boring for those of us who know them. It was pure genius the way he managed to do all that so new viewers wouldn't be lost but also not boring the rest of us with stuff we already know.
I was a little confused by Simon's rescue of River though. I thought he had just put up the money for her rescue and didn't think he actually went inside to get her but then I could see how it was necessary to do it this way to let new viewers understand River and Simon's backstory in a small space of time.
One of my favorite parts was when Mal lead the Reavers straight for the Alliance. He wasn't kidding when he said "They won't see this coming" - though I figured it out right before he did it. That was pure genius.
I so can't wait to hear what tj and Grail have to say about the movie. I also wonder what Py thought of it.
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Post by TheMasterGeek on Oct 3, 2005 0:20:48 GMT -5
We all loved how Mal lead the Reavers accross to the battle, Grail said he saw that coming too, with the Operative. BTW, I thought that Chitwetel did a great job as The Operative...he just gave me chills. The movie had me engrossed from beginning to end. My favorite character in the Movie was Simon actually because I loved the fact he stood up to Mal, which I thought needed to be done. I believe that as a result of that, I think Mal gain a whole lot of respect for Simon, because Simon fought back, unlike if Mal did something to Wash and Jayne because they havent fought back when Mal challenges them.
The movie was spectacular. I think I still am on Vegas time so I am not tired at all.
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Post by TheMasterGeek on Oct 3, 2005 0:44:30 GMT -5
One thing I have to say, some of the reviewers who watched the movie weren't watching the same film that I was watching. There were some factual errors in the article. I mean one reviewer said the reason why humans left Earth was because of its destruction as a result of a war. Which was totally wrong...the reason we left earth was that we wasted up all our natural resources.
Roger Ebert enjoyed the film giving it a thumbs up, The New York Time said it was much much better than "Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith", and the premier movie critic in Philly gave it three stars and said you didnt have to watch the series to enjoy the movie.
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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 3, 2005 0:53:40 GMT -5
One thing I have to say, some of the reviewers who watched the movie weren't watching the same film that I was watching. There were some factual errors in the article. I mean one reviewer said the reason why humans left Earth was because of its destruction as a result of a war. Which was totally wrong...the reason we left earth was that we wasted up all our natural resources. Roger Ebert enjoyed the film giving it a thumbs up, The New York Time said it was much much better than "Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith", and the premier movie critic in Philly gave it three stars and said you didnt have to watch the series to enjoy the movie.
I really enjoyed Robert Eberts review, especially this part:
I love how he's now pissed at FOX for canceling Firefly too, and he never watched the show. ;D
I just can't believe how many fans are pissed off about the movie. There are so many people complaining on the Official Browncoats site about Wash and Book getting killed.
I went to the site after the movie expecting to see a bunch of people as excited as I was and I saw all that. Threads and threads full of it. Mostly the same few people acting like two-year-olds because the movie didn't have the traditional happy ending they were expecting.
But what makes it worse is now they're insulting all Buffy fans for liking the movie and saying we're all just a bunch of mindless Wedonites. It's gotten pretty mean over there.
I guess I should have expected it though. Look how mad people were when they killed Tara on Buffy. I just hope Joss and Nathan don't go on there and see all that stuff. I don't want them to think they did a bad job because they made a brilliant movie.
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Post by TheMasterGeek on Oct 3, 2005 1:04:26 GMT -5
I too loved that part of Ebert's review, so on the money.
I loved the ending despite Wash's death, he is my favorite character, but I couldn't find another character that would be appropiate to die at the end. He needed a sudden impact death...and Wash was it because he was the hero of the moment...just like Anya in "Chosen". I was surprised that Book died...I feel like we were cheated out of Book's backstory, but Joss could still tell it through flashbacks. And my theory on Book was that he was an Operative before he joined the preisthood.
The most chilling scene was definitely the Scene on Miranda to see all those people just stopped dead, like statues, doing their jobs. And the video feed that described what happened and how the Reavers came about, was just spinetingling. Joss did a great job explaining how the Reavers came about...which was basically the Alliance trying to meddle in people's lives, and that it was a failed experiement in making people content. It worked too well on Miranda for most of the people. Joss wrote a masterful story here.
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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 3, 2005 1:17:09 GMT -5
I too loved that part of Ebert's review, so on the money.
I loved the ending despite Wash's death, he is my favorite character, but I couldn't find another character that would be appropiate to die at the end. He needed a sudden impact death...and Wash was it because he was the hero of the moment...just like Anya in "Chosen". I was surprised that Book died...I feel like we were cheated out of Book's backstory, but Joss could still tell it through flashbacks. And my theory on Book was that he was an Operative before he joined the preisthood.
The most chilling scene was definitely the Scene on Miranda to see all those people just stopped dead, like statues, doing their jobs. And the video feed that described what happened and how the Reavers came about, was just spinetingling. Joss did a great job explaining how the Reavers came about...which was basically the Alliance trying to meddle in people's lives, and that it was a failed experiement in making people content. It worked too well on Miranda for most of the people. Joss wrote a masterful story here.
When I saw that everyone else at Haven was dead I pretty much expected Book to be dead. I was surprised that he was still alive and was hoping they were going to be able to save him.
I really didn't think they would though so his death wasn't really too surprising. It was necessary to help put Mal in a place where he was angry enough to do something as insane as fly past the Reavers to see what was up with Miranda.
Those scenes there were chilling. I remember thinking that there was no way I could take Gaby to see this movie because it will scare the hell out of her. She doesn't do scary movies.
It was wonderful story telling and I love how the Reavers came about. As soon as I realized Miranda was a planet near Reaver space I figured it had something to do with them but I would have never guessed something like that had happened to do it.
Wash's death was hard but a stroke of genius to the story. Book's death already had you in a place, then you watch Serenity get destroyed. That was just awful to watch. I nearly cried for the ship when I saw that landing.
Then Wash makes his "I'm a leaf on the wind." comment which gets a nice laugh and then BAM! He's gone.
That was really unexpected and I was just expecting everyone to die after that. I think I even said that to Celeste. I was wondering if he was going to kill them all.
When Zoe got slashed across the back I thought she was going to die. Then Jayne got shot in the arm and I was scared for him. Then Kaylee got hit with a dart and I thought she might die.
Then Simon got shot and I just knew he was dying. Especially with the way he was talking to River.
Then when she got dragged away by the Reavers I thought she might die, but I did pretty much expect her to kick their @ss! I think that's what she was made for.
I was really scared for Mal but I figured he'd probably make it.
I loved it when he faced The Operative with the screwdriver. That was so very funny and so very Mal.
The movie just has so much good in it. Now I want to go see it again. Right now.
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Post by TheMasterGeek on Oct 3, 2005 13:07:24 GMT -5
The one thing I enjoyed about the movie was the ending because it both gave resolvement to the series, and left it open for future films.
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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 3, 2005 13:25:45 GMT -5
The one thing I enjoyed about the movie was the ending because it both gave resolvement to the series, and left it open for future films.
I agree. There were so many things to love about this movie. The ending was wonderful. I'm so glad they rebuilt Serenity.
I was really upset with I saw Serenity being ripped to pieces in the crash landing at the end. I thought "No!!! They can't kill Serenity!" The ship is as much a character as everyone else is.
I also love how River pretty much just knew how to fly surprising Mal. I loved his speech to her about Love being the way to keep a ship in the air.
I loved it when Simon and Kaylee got together and you see River peak her head down, that was so priceless.
Summer Glau had the best facial expressions during this movie. They spoke volumes. Like when she was pointing at that guy in the beginning and Zoe looks at her then River nods her head even harder basically saying "go check him out now!" without saying a word.
And when Simon asks her is he's talking to Miranda right now. The look she gives him is hilarious. I love that moment.
I really loved it when they get back to the ship after escaping the Reavers and River looks at Simon and says, "I swallowed a bug."
So many great moments in this movie. Joss Whedon is a genius, I don't care what those idiots say on The Official Browncoats Site.
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Post by Aunt Arlene on Oct 3, 2005 14:14:57 GMT -5
At the end of the movie I was a little pissed off. I had it my head that they could still bring Firefly back as a TV show and I couldn't imagine it without Wash and Book. I had to let it soak in for a day or two before I could accept the movie as a whole.
It really feels like the stages of grief. I was in denial, but now I've accepted it.
I still don't quite understand how vehement some of the posters on the Browncoat site are being. I don't think there numbers are as stong as they seem though. They are just louder so they appear to be more of a majority. More people seem to have the opinion that you should just go see it a second time.
I might go on a Friday or Saturday night just to see it with a larger crowd.
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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 3, 2005 19:10:35 GMT -5
At the end of the movie I was a little pissed off. I had it my head that they could still bring Firefly back as a TV show and I couldn't imagine it without Wash and Book. I had to let it soak in for a day or two before I could accept the movie as a whole.
It really feels like the stages of grief. I was in denial, but now I've accepted it.
I still don't quite understand how vehement some of the posters on the Browncoat site are being. I don't think there numbers are as strong as they seem though. They are just louder so they appear to be more of a majority. More people seem to have the opinion that you should just go see it a second time.
I might go on a Friday or Saturday night just to see it with a larger crowd.
I'm glad I saw the movie twice in a row. I think it helped me get past Wash's death a bit faster. I was still upset about it but I wasn't as mad about it. I could really see why Joss had to do it and I'm sure it hurt him way more than it did us.
I agree that the angry Browncoats don't really seem to be the majority. It's just they're cluttering up the board making so much noise that it seems that way.
It seems to be mostly the same people complaining so I don't think everyone feels that way. I have seen a few more threads today that were saying more positive things about the deaths.
I just wish the rest of them would contain their thoughts to one or two threads and stop bothering the rest of us. They are scaring some of the new people who have registered since watching the movie.
I've seen more than a few comments from newbies who are completely surprised by the reaction of some of the fans. Since the site has been all wonky it's hard to get a word in to reassure these people that we're not all insane.
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Post by tickie on Oct 3, 2005 19:14:42 GMT -5
So I had an extended lunch break and I went to see Serenity. (See how much I love you Joss? My lunch break for heaven's sake!)
But anyway I kept reminding myself of what was going to happen and I cried during both Book and Wash's deaths.
I think the movie was tougher for me because before I saw Serenity for the first time I had a Firefly-thon, so everything was fresh and new, including my love for Book and Wash.
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Post by Charisma69 on Oct 3, 2005 19:32:13 GMT -5
So I had an extended lunch break and I went to see Serenity. (See how much I love you Joss? My lunch break for heaven's sake!)
But anyway I kept reminding myself of what was going to happen and I cried during both Book and Wash's deaths.
I think the movie was tougher for me because before I saw Serenity for the first time I had a Firefly-thon, so everything was fresh and new, including my love for Book and Wash.
I almost went and saw it again today. I just had laundry and other things I had to do.
I still get all teary eyed when I think of Wash and Book. Wash's death was especially hard for me to take. I can appreciate the brilliance of the deaths to the story but they're still sad.
Just like Doyle's death on Angel, the "our rats are low" line gets me crying everytime.
Now it's the "I'm a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" line that gets me. That and Wash's dinosaurs. I get all misty eyed when I see those.
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Post by Aunt Arlene on Oct 3, 2005 21:06:24 GMT -5
I told my mom to go see Serenity before any spoilers got out. She managed to get my dad to go with her to see it. She called a little while ago and said she loved it.
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Post by tjaman on Oct 3, 2005 21:23:17 GMT -5
I'm here mostly to talk about "Medium." We had about the most productive and amazing rehearsal tonight, but it's been a really full day and I won't be able to give anything the right amount of attention.
Just had to come in here and say I was troubled by Wash's death, mostly because he wasn't really introduced too much in the movie and if you weren't, well, us, his death didn't mean maybe as much as it might.
But it was of course an incredible scene. He got to save the day before he died. And Zoe's grief at his funeral was just painful.
I wish Book's death meant more to me than it did, but he was barely in the film, and I don't know if it meant anything to anyone else, either.
G-d, "Medium" is creepy tonight.
And beyond the deaths, the movie was an extraordinary burst of brilliance. Joss is a gorram genius and there's nothing to be done about it. And people need to grow up. There's no way that they could be fighting that battle against those crazies and not lose someone.
For Wash, according to the comics (thanks for letting me read the comics, everyone!) his heart wasn't into it, and Book was ready to leave, too. And Inara was already enough of an off-ship presence (she didn't get much of an explanation for the uninitiated, either), so for all intents and purposes, Joss killed off his most expendable characters to still have a show.
I loved the explanation behind what the Reavers were, and I agree with grail that it was cool to learn it was all one solar system.
I loved the movie, and I loved meeting Kev, sgg and grail. Such good, good people, and so much fun.
I wish I could say everything I need to say in this post. But I'm going to need to gush in installments.
For right now, I'm speaking directly to Joss. Brilliant. Bloody, unfreeqin'believeably brilliant, and well done.
You've told one hell of a story, and I love you.
In a completely heterosexual way, of course. Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;D
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Post by Bango on Oct 3, 2005 21:28:54 GMT -5
Did you guys make any pics?
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